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		<title>By: concerned citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if the people did not pull together the mayor and cohorts would have had their way and kageman would have at least been able to play arena style football with half the field.

Happy to see the people win for once against this arrogant crew.

Thank you to all involved. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if the people did not pull together the mayor and cohorts would have had their way and kageman would have at least been able to play arena style football with half the field.</p>
<p>Happy to see the people win for once against this arrogant crew.</p>
<p>Thank you to all involved. <img src='http://opencda.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stebbijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stebbijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s cool, Kage.

I like watching from the sidelines and reading the emotional connections when it comes to certain landmarks and places in this area. While I am native to Idaho, I am not native to Coeur d&#039;Alene, however, I recognize any emotional attachment one develops when they have been raised here or lived here for years as well as coming back to the community they are from.  Coeur d&#039;Alene was the big city for me in the 70&#039;s when we would stop at the drive in - where Les Schwab is now on Government- for a burger on the way home from Worley after the football games. Of course Government Way is nothing like it used to be. 

It&#039;s easy to figure out that Person&#039;s Field is a piece of town that refused to go down the road of progress and development and it gives me special satisfaction when the people win something because they fought the good fight.

Congratulations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s cool, Kage.</p>
<p>I like watching from the sidelines and reading the emotional connections when it comes to certain landmarks and places in this area. While I am native to Idaho, I am not native to Coeur d&#8217;Alene, however, I recognize any emotional attachment one develops when they have been raised here or lived here for years as well as coming back to the community they are from.  Coeur d&#8217;Alene was the big city for me in the 70&#8242;s when we would stop at the drive in &#8211; where Les Schwab is now on Government- for a burger on the way home from Worley after the football games. Of course Government Way is nothing like it used to be. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to figure out that Person&#8217;s Field is a piece of town that refused to go down the road of progress and development and it gives me special satisfaction when the people win something because they fought the good fight.</p>
<p>Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>By: kageman</title>
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		<dc:creator>kageman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am not privy to any special memories of Person Field&quot;.
Stebbijo

I have alot of memories of Persons Field. My aunt and grandfather took me to CDA High School football games from the late 60&#039;s to early 70&#039;s. I also, played football there in the late 70&#039;s. It&#039;s great that Persons Field will remain a public park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not privy to any special memories of Person Field&#8221;.<br />
Stebbijo</p>
<p>I have alot of memories of Persons Field. My aunt and grandfather took me to CDA High School football games from the late 60&#8242;s to early 70&#8242;s. I also, played football there in the late 70&#8242;s. It&#8217;s great that Persons Field will remain a public park.</p>
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		<title>By: Stebbijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stebbijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Overall, the Trustees came across as far better prepared and informed and far more businesslike and professional.&lt;/i

I agree and their &#039;role modeling&#039; so to speak is most likely the reason the city also stepped up their game, usually during a city council meeting it can really digress. There were moments but since it was a productive gathering, I do not want to focus on those behaviors. 

In the long run, the people, won this deal. They deserve the credit for a job well done as well. Without their community involvement, Person&#039;s Field would be lost.

I am not privy to any special memories of Person Field, but it is is easy to see how important this parcel was to the community above any other acquisitions or projects. People can breathe a little easier, now. Some of those bigger pills might be easier to swallow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Overall, the Trustees came across as far better prepared and informed and far more businesslike and professional.&lt;/i</p>
<p>I agree and their &#039;role modeling&#039; so to speak is most likely the reason the city also stepped up their game, usually during a city council meeting it can really digress. There were moments but since it was a productive gathering, I do not want to focus on those behaviors. </p>
<p>In the long run, the people, won this deal. They deserve the credit for a job well done as well. Without their community involvement, Person&#039;s Field would be lost.</p>
<p>I am not privy to any special memories of Person Field, but it is is easy to see how important this parcel was to the community above any other acquisitions or projects. People can breathe a little easier, now. Some of those bigger pills might be easier to swallow.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary,

As you correctly pointed out, it was Dan Gookin&#039;s motion at the last council meeting that forced the reluctant Mayor and other council members to do their jobs.  &lt;blockquote&gt;Motion by Gookin, seconded by Kennedy to direct staff to arrange a meeting between the School District and the City Council to be televised for the purpose of settling the acquisition of Person Field.  Motion carried.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  It also forced the Trustees to do theirs.  

Bloem is worthless.  After announcing that the audience would not be allowed to address the combined boards, she sat idly and compliantly by when Edinger directed Gridley to read a letter from some local resident named Burchell into the record.  It was, I believe, the right decision for the boards to agree there would be no public comment, but for Bloem to then allow that to be violated so flagrantly was a face slap to the people who packed the room.  

Overall, the Trustees came across as far better prepared and informed and far more businesslike and professional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>As you correctly pointed out, it was Dan Gookin&#8217;s motion at the last council meeting that forced the reluctant Mayor and other council members to do their jobs.<br />
<blockquote>Motion by Gookin, seconded by Kennedy to direct staff to arrange a meeting between the School District and the City Council to be televised for the purpose of settling the acquisition of Person Field.  Motion carried.</p></blockquote>
<p>  It also forced the Trustees to do theirs.  </p>
<p>Bloem is worthless.  After announcing that the audience would not be allowed to address the combined boards, she sat idly and compliantly by when Edinger directed Gridley to read a letter from some local resident named Burchell into the record.  It was, I believe, the right decision for the boards to agree there would be no public comment, but for Bloem to then allow that to be violated so flagrantly was a face slap to the people who packed the room.  </p>
<p>Overall, the Trustees came across as far better prepared and informed and far more businesslike and professional.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a productive and interesting meeting.
Curiously, I had an epiphany while watching and listening. The roles played were all in order except one.
We had the School Superintendent, Hazel Bauman, the CSB chairperson, Tom Hamlin and the CdA city council Mayor, Mike Kennedy.
That&#039;s right Mayor Kennedy :) he lead for the city&#039;s case and stepped over Mrs.Bloem in some instances not with malice mind you as I noticed her touyching his shoulder or arm to prompt him to speak or respond. This isn&#039;t to say they didn&#039;t discuss it as being that way prior as Mike did do a great job. Granted, a good leader will deligate to what resources and tools that best serve them but, it just seemed like some of that and, some of being unable to be effective. I don&#039;t know, maybe it was just me.
I like the Mayor but for some reason she seemed, out of sorts, perhaps tired, perhaps unable to keep up. Granted all sides had their &quot;teams&quot; who imparted significant input but their efforts were then reiterated and championed by their perspective leaders. It just seemed that the city deferred that to Mr Kennedy, rightfully so in my opinion. As it served the city well in this negotiation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a productive and interesting meeting.<br />
Curiously, I had an epiphany while watching and listening. The roles played were all in order except one.<br />
We had the School Superintendent, Hazel Bauman, the CSB chairperson, Tom Hamlin and the CdA city council Mayor, Mike Kennedy.<br />
That&#8217;s right Mayor Kennedy <img src='http://opencda.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  he lead for the city&#8217;s case and stepped over Mrs.Bloem in some instances not with malice mind you as I noticed her touyching his shoulder or arm to prompt him to speak or respond. This isn&#8217;t to say they didn&#8217;t discuss it as being that way prior as Mike did do a great job. Granted, a good leader will deligate to what resources and tools that best serve them but, it just seemed like some of that and, some of being unable to be effective. I don&#8217;t know, maybe it was just me.<br />
I like the Mayor but for some reason she seemed, out of sorts, perhaps tired, perhaps unable to keep up. Granted all sides had their &#8220;teams&#8221; who imparted significant input but their efforts were then reiterated and championed by their perspective leaders. It just seemed that the city deferred that to Mr Kennedy, rightfully so in my opinion. As it served the city well in this negotiation.</p>
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		<title>By: Stebbijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stebbijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Kageman - for the clarifications - I can see how I misunderstood the statement (McNiel)  - but be certainly made a difference in his statement that brought the deal to the forefront. A job well done by everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kageman &#8211; for the clarifications &#8211; I can see how I misunderstood the statement (McNiel)  &#8211; but be certainly made a difference in his statement that brought the deal to the forefront. A job well done by everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The meeting tonight started out devolving into the weeds on issues of ownership history, the Joint Powers Agreement and security considerations. I was feeling nervous. But then the possibility of Byan Playfield was brought forward and that took the limelight. It ended up that both the school district and city agreed on a deal to buy both Person and Byan for between $655k-750k, depending on the outcome of the appraisal on Bryan.

Kudos to CdA City Councilman Dan Gookin who worked hard to make this public, televised meeting happen. He pushed at both last week&#039;s city council meeting and at Monday night&#039;s School Board very long meeting (no one else from the council took the time to attend). Without Dan&#039;s persistence, this gathering would never have happened. And without this public, televised meeting, the elected officials (egos) in both groups would never have agreed to the terms of this deal. It&#039;s a Win, Win, Win for City, School Board and Public! Thanks to you all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meeting tonight started out devolving into the weeds on issues of ownership history, the Joint Powers Agreement and security considerations. I was feeling nervous. But then the possibility of Byan Playfield was brought forward and that took the limelight. It ended up that both the school district and city agreed on a deal to buy both Person and Byan for between $655k-750k, depending on the outcome of the appraisal on Bryan.</p>
<p>Kudos to CdA City Councilman Dan Gookin who worked hard to make this public, televised meeting happen. He pushed at both last week&#8217;s city council meeting and at Monday night&#8217;s School Board very long meeting (no one else from the council took the time to attend). Without Dan&#8217;s persistence, this gathering would never have happened. And without this public, televised meeting, the elected officials (egos) in both groups would never have agreed to the terms of this deal. It&#8217;s a Win, Win, Win for City, School Board and Public! Thanks to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stebbijo,

They have a tentative agreement subject to the appraisal of the Bryan property.  I watched and recorded it, and as I understand it, the District will get more than the City&#039;s cash offer and closer to the appraised value of Person in real dollars.  The exact amount will be determined by the appraisal on Bryan playfield factored in to the City&#039;s original cash only offer.  The Northshire Park property is off the table and will likely be sold outright by the School District if it gets an acceptable offer.   The use of District property by the City will be negotiated separately.  

The thing I&#039;m most unclear on but what I hope will be put in place is an airtight deed restriction that forces the City to maintain the entirety of Person Field as a city park in perpetuity.  Such a restriction must unequivocally keep the City from dividing the Park, selling part of it to a developer, and then leaving the neighborhood with a smaller park or none at all.  The City needs a separate zone specifically for City Parks.  Right now, parks are zoned R-something, I think R-1.  

Also, Bruce MacNeil did not offer to personally make up any difference.  What he said was that the amount of the difference was so small that the City should make it up out of its seemingly bottomless &quot;rainy day&quot; fund, and he said that as a Coeur d&#039;Alene taxpayer, he would be happy to make [his part] of that payment to keep Person Field in tact.

Bruce and Linda MacNeil and Susie Snedaker have been battling our loopy mayor and City Council for at least seven years.  It looks as if their tireless and persistent efforts have paid off for the benefit of the community.   

Kageman,

The school board of trustees have thus far fulfilled their legal obligations and have made every effort to keep the Park as public land.  As I believe Superintendent Bauman said tonight, the Trustees are responsible to all their constituents, including those in Dalton, Hayden, etc., and they have an equal moral and legal responsibility to those people as well.  In other words, the Trustees can&#039;t favor people simply because they live in Coeur d&#039;Alene.  It seemed to me the Trustees fulfilled their obligations tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stebbijo,</p>
<p>They have a tentative agreement subject to the appraisal of the Bryan property.  I watched and recorded it, and as I understand it, the District will get more than the City&#8217;s cash offer and closer to the appraised value of Person in real dollars.  The exact amount will be determined by the appraisal on Bryan playfield factored in to the City&#8217;s original cash only offer.  The Northshire Park property is off the table and will likely be sold outright by the School District if it gets an acceptable offer.   The use of District property by the City will be negotiated separately.  </p>
<p>The thing I&#8217;m most unclear on but what I hope will be put in place is an airtight deed restriction that forces the City to maintain the entirety of Person Field as a city park in perpetuity.  Such a restriction must unequivocally keep the City from dividing the Park, selling part of it to a developer, and then leaving the neighborhood with a smaller park or none at all.  The City needs a separate zone specifically for City Parks.  Right now, parks are zoned R-something, I think R-1.  </p>
<p>Also, Bruce MacNeil did not offer to personally make up any difference.  What he said was that the amount of the difference was so small that the City should make it up out of its seemingly bottomless &#8220;rainy day&#8221; fund, and he said that as a Coeur d&#8217;Alene taxpayer, he would be happy to make [his part] of that payment to keep Person Field in tact.</p>
<p>Bruce and Linda MacNeil and Susie Snedaker have been battling our loopy mayor and City Council for at least seven years.  It looks as if their tireless and persistent efforts have paid off for the benefit of the community.   </p>
<p>Kageman,</p>
<p>The school board of trustees have thus far fulfilled their legal obligations and have made every effort to keep the Park as public land.  As I believe Superintendent Bauman said tonight, the Trustees are responsible to all their constituents, including those in Dalton, Hayden, etc., and they have an equal moral and legal responsibility to those people as well.  In other words, the Trustees can&#8217;t favor people simply because they live in Coeur d&#8217;Alene.  It seemed to me the Trustees fulfilled their obligations tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Stebbijo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stebbijo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and let&#039;s not forget SusieS and Dan Gookin for getting the meeting to the public!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and let&#8217;s not forget SusieS and Dan Gookin for getting the meeting to the public!</p>
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