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March 18, 2012

Open Session, Sunday

Filed under: Open Session — mary @ 12:10 pm

It’s still March Madness at our house but the fire has gone out of it now that the Zags lost yesterday.  We’ll still be rooting for Creighton today, as it’s our youngest son’s alma mater.  There are many local issues swirling around town right now…what’s on your mind?

19 Comments

  1. Okay, I will bite. I was not aware of the fact that contracts for the repairing of infrastructure in the United States were being given to China. If you haven’t seen it, Google the following:

    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video …

    Comment by Joe Six-Pack — March 18, 2012 @ 4:19 pm

  2. Dang computer anyway,or try…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdchHGIbxSI

    Comment by Joe Six-Pack — March 18, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

  3. Thanks, Joe, it’s terrible that our tax stimulus dollars are being used to employ Chinese GOVERNMENT owned companies, with Chinese workers, to build our U.S.infrastructure projects…the “shovel ready” jobs that were supposed to help our economy recover!

    Good news video. I hope it’s played over and over on every station until November.

    Comment by mary — March 18, 2012 @ 10:52 pm

  4. It is very disheartening that the spin masters at city hall feel the need to do as they wish instead of what their constituents desire. Political figures like kennedy, goodlander, mcevers and bloem ARE the primary cause of voter apathy in America.

    Comment by concerned citizen — March 19, 2012 @ 2:43 pm

  5. http://now.msn.com/now/0319-memphis-cop-radio-sex.aspx

    This happened in Coeur d’Alene and was covered up by Longo and his Captains and Lieutenants.

    Comment by jayhump — March 19, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

  6. The Dan Dixon court case against the CdA Police Dept shows that the department needs an independent investigation. Your comment, Jayhump, just adds emphasis to that need. I hope the city council will take some action.

    Comment by mary — March 19, 2012 @ 4:41 pm

  7. I recall a KCSD deputy(ies?) being involved in a similar situation years and years (perhaps decades) ago. I question whether Chief Longo would cover it up.

    Comment by Joe Six-Pack — March 19, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

  8. Joe 6P-
    Cover ups come in many varieties. Not taking appropriate disciplinary action is one form. If you are an insider, the PD Mafia will protect you. If not they will look for ways to get you. The aspect which really bothers me are the salaries which we pay these few (6-8) men and the judgement (with interest) we are about to pay. We deserve more for our tax dollars.

    Comment by jayhump — March 19, 2012 @ 5:25 pm

  9. Don’ forget the incident where jail personnel were stealing the inmate’s drugs. I believe very little happened and it was swept under the rug.

    Comment by LTR — March 19, 2012 @ 7:04 pm

  10. jayhump comment # 5 ,
    please bring me up to date. Didn’t know this.

    Comment by Ancientemplar — March 19, 2012 @ 7:57 pm

  11. Do you think an outside, independent investigator would be able to identify the problems inside the CdA PD?

    Comment by mary — March 19, 2012 @ 10:13 pm

  12. “This happened in Coeur d’Alene and was covered up by Longo and his Captains and Lieutenants.”

    Comment by jayhump — March 19, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

    Really!? Who and when? I never heard about this. Is it because it was a personnel issue?

    “The Dan Dixon court case against the CdA Police Dept shows that the department needs an independent investigation. Your comment, Jayhump, just adds emphasis to that need. I hope the city council will take some action.”

    Comment by mary — March 19, 2012 @ 4:41 pm

    Investigation into what? Seems like the courts are doing their job. I don’t really want to pay for an investigation unless something really hinky is going on.

    Comment by pu — March 20, 2012 @ 7:00 am

  13. Rumor has it that Longo has begun looking for another job.

    The likelihood of any meaningful investigation of the CdA Police Department is zilch. Idaho as a state is politically unimportant, insignificant, so careers are built by maintaining the status quo corruptus and not by engaging in aggressive corruptus interruptus. To the extent the Mullan Avenue Gang wants public validation of the police department, it will continue to hire outside consultants who will say what the City pays them to say.

    Comment by Bill — March 20, 2012 @ 7:10 am

  14. pu,

    Do an Idaho public records request to the Kootenai County Prosecuting Attorney. Ask for a copy of this report. Then study it very carefully. That will help answer your question “Investigation into what.”

    Comment by Bill — March 20, 2012 @ 7:18 am

  15. Yes it did happen with a Sergeant (insider) in CDA. I have a background in law enforcement and contacts in the community who keep me informed. The Dixon incident was not an isolated event. An audit of the PD is warranted and most likely a reorganization of the dead wood which has floated to the top.

    Comment by jayhump — March 20, 2012 @ 8:21 am

  16. Bill. You’ve probably already made this request. How bout you just tell me.
    Jayhump. The Dixon things seems to be either a sympathetic jury And/Or supervisory mishandling. Everyone is so vague. How about some specifics people?

    Comment by pu — March 20, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

  17. pu,

    I’ve got the report and have had it for several years. Assuming the ISP investigators were being truthful in the report, one KCSD deputy twice walked away from Madonna, handcuffed behind his back, and left him seated in his own garage connected with a pedestrian door to his as yet uncleared residence. The deputy was conversing with the second deputy when he saw Madonna had maneuvered his hands, still cuffed, from behind his back to in front. The first deputy went back to Madonna, admonished him not to do that again, recuffed him behind his back, then went back to talk to CdAPD officer Kralicek. Madonna once again moved his still-cuffed hands from behind his back to his front, then jumped up and ran into his house the deputies had not cleared. Madonna picked up a handgun he had placed on the living room coffee table, turned, and fired two rounds in the direction of the pursuing deputy. The deputy tripped and fell as he came through the door, so one of the two rounds Madonna fired struck Kralicek who was immediately behind the deputy. The other round entered a heavy bag hanging in Madonna’s garage.

    In the days I was writing my Whitecaps blog, I posted the details in the post titled Theft, Gunfire, and Death in Hayden, Idaho: Part II .

    All of my posts concerning this incident are grouped here.

    Madonna had executed a similar handcuff maneuver technique in the back of the CdAPD patrol car just days earlier when he was being taken to jail for DUI. The booking form, however, does not reflect Madonna’s ability to maneuver his arms from back to front while cuffed.

    My opinion is that while Douglas, Watson, and Carpenter may have been legally correct about the shooting of Michael Madonna being legally justified, they all failed to tell the public that the entire shooting incident could likely have been avoided if the deputy had been properly trained and supervised so that he properly cuffed and/or retained complete control over his prisoner.

    Comment by Bill — March 20, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

  18. Bill,
    Thanks for helping me out on this. I would like to add that one more factor for avoiding the shooting would be that Madonna could have followed instructions. What do you think would be different now if they had pointed out that the deputy and his supervisor had made a mistake? I am not an expert on law enforcement so I still don’t know what else needs “investigating”.

    Comment by pu — March 21, 2012 @ 7:32 am

  19. pu,

    Your comment is reasonable, but if persons under arrest always fully complied with law enforcement’s instructions, no restraints would be necessary at all. Once an officer arrests a person, that officer has a responsibility to exercise proper control over his in-custody prisoner so that the prisoner cannot harm himself, the law enforcement officers, or anyone else.

    What could and should have been different is that in-service training can and must regularly reinforce and retrain proper restraint and control a prisoner. Supervisors have a duty to ensure subordinates are following training and policy in the field. If supervisors fail to observe and correct improper techniques or inappropriate policy deviations, then they bear some responsibility for breaches of training and policy by those subordinates. The supervisors are also setting up the subordinate to fail, because the supervisors are reinforcing improper or out-of-policy behaviors.

    What needs investigation by outside, disinterested parties is whether any of the remnants of the past improper or deficient conduct remain.

    Comment by Bill — March 21, 2012 @ 7:52 am

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