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December 14, 2009

Open Session, Stupidity

Filed under: Open Session — mary @ 5:41 pm

180px-Iceberg_with_hole_editThere are some absurd things going on in our world right now.  I sometimes think I’ll wake up and find it is all a bad dream.  But here’s the latest from the Global Warming Summit in Copenhagen.  Al Gore told the world conference that “the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years”

In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: “These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.”

The only problem is, Dr. Maslowski says he doesn’t know where Gore got that information!  Gore’s office ” later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a “ballpark figure” several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore.

This info is from a Times Online article (of course only England would report this, not our US media!)

26 Comments

  1. “…only England would report this, not our US media!”

    Exactly. A treaty based on lies and political agenda that would destroy our economy isn’t important enough for american sociojournalists. That’s why their subscription and ad revenues are up.
    s/

    NIC’s own Sarah Palin can easily go toe-to-toe with Algore in a debate even tho’ he can see the shrinking arctic ice floes with starving polar bears from his energy guzzling plantation in Tennessee.

    As for the disappearing polar ice cap, according to the National Snow And Ice Data Center, second-year ice — the ice that survives the annual and normal summer melt — this summer made up 32% of the total ice cover on the Arctic Ocean compared with 21% in 2007 and 9% in 2008. Clearly, Arctic sea ice is not following the consensus touted by Gore and the warmmongers.

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=515264

    …and here’s what conservatives have to say about Gore/Palin at lucianne.com.

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=510850

    For those unfamiliar with Lucianne, she is a conservative editor, book agent (Linda Tripp amongst others) and wit in NY City Lucianne Goldberg who brings biting wit and important news together at her blog.

    Comment by Zapatista — December 14, 2009 @ 7:00 pm

  2. The only true man made global warming threat, is the hot air that Al Gore constantly spews. His personal life is a litany of supposed dangerous warming, private jets, an enormous home, etc. A perfect example of do as I say, not as I do. Here is a man who just can’t let go of the spotlight.

    Comment by rochereau — December 15, 2009 @ 8:18 am

  3. The Tiger Woods saga seems to be getting weirder by the day. Now we have some gal in her late 40’s claiming she’s a “mistress”…which is the most baffling thing about this whole sordid business.
    Call me a traditional kind guy but isn’t the meaning of “mistress’” to be a “kept woman” who a rich married guy would keep on the side for exclusive extramarital “bidness.”
    He pays for everything – room, board and spending money in exchange for exclusive ”rights.”
    Every one of these women is claiming she was Tiger’s “mistress.” Aren’t the journalists mistaking mistress for bimbo, tart, one-nighter, quickie, trollop or tramp? Or did he actually keep them all, in the traditional sense of the word.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/14/2009-12-14_after_the_busty_young_babes_tigers_linked_to_40something.html#ixzz0Zm8RlrIi

    If true, wife Elin has to go into the Pantheon of Dumb Blonds while Tiger enters Rich Dude Mistress Vallhala.

    Comment by Zapatista — December 15, 2009 @ 9:03 am

  4. Gore is the quintessential politician. A bag of hot air ( a global warming source) that will spew out anything that supports a position. That he got a Nobel Prize for anything gutted the credibility of that organization long ago.

    What is interesting is that anthropologists strongly aver that the reason modern humans evolved our critical thinking skills was due to our being challenged by extreme changes in climate. Historically, extreme shifts in climate have honed human adaptability. Still humankind does need to be a responsible steward of the planet our habitat. So the debate is not so much about CO2 emissions. It is about how urgently they need to be curtailed and reversed. Again science shows that the earth has withstood huge volumes of this gas from natural events such as volcanoes. It maybe that we will experience all that a global warm episode will deliver. And we will survive, and we will grow even smarter and we will learn. But, if we can do better and employ cleaner energy production there is nothing wrong with doing so. Still, having to do this immediately in a code 3 fashion is certainly questionable.

    In the meantime it would be nice if our President would stop portraying America as an international global warming thug. We have done our share of pollution to this planet and we long ago recognized that problem. We have instituted far more measures to contain pollution than most countries, and that includes CO2 emissions. There are many other countries that contribute more to this planets pollution problems who need to mend their own ways….. on their own dime.

    Comment by Wallypog — December 16, 2009 @ 4:39 am

  5. Excellent point Wally. I would only add that it actually would be nice if our president was….. someone else!

    Comment by rochereau — December 16, 2009 @ 8:36 am

  6. Idaho Freedom Foundation posted a nice article yesterday about with a nice statement from Gookin.

    Chili cook-offs and gift cards: Coeur d’Alene spends $4,500 on “Employee Recognition”

    Gookin told us the city’s elected officials don’t have the courage to make tough decisions when it comes to spending. “Not one of those elected officials would stand up and say ‘Hey, you know what? We need to save money, so no plaques. No trophies. No chili cook-offs.’ Do you know how many people out here this winter can’t heat their homes to 68 degrees because they can’t afford $900? That’s a lot of money to people out here, and there’s no one on the city council that fathoms that. There’s no champion for the person out here that’s having trouble making ends meet.”

    I make fun of their chili over at my place.

    Comment by Stebbijo — December 16, 2009 @ 9:01 am

  7. Anyone know what’s going on with the election’s case.

    I see that this was logged in on the data repository site. Was that the talk that Kelso requested that was in the paper a couple of days ago? Inquiring minds would like to know. 🙂 So this must be up before Hosack now to determine if it is frivolous or not? Shoot, it would have been nice to know about this sooner, one might like to hear the arguments since it is public. I guess you have to go ask for the file to see what is really going on.

    12/15/2009 Hearing Scheduled (Motion to Dismiss 03/02/2010 03:30 PM) Haman – 30 min

    Comment by Stebbijo — December 16, 2009 @ 9:27 am

  8. Okay, I got it – the hearing is not going to be until March – but that doesn’t mean anything either, they will probably extend it again.

    Comment by Stebbijo — December 16, 2009 @ 9:30 am

  9. What makes these tax supported public employees, any of them regardless if city, county or otherwise, think they don’t have to participate in the recession?

    Comment by Gary Ingram — December 16, 2009 @ 10:58 am

  10. “What makes these tax supported public employees, any of them regardless if city, county or otherwise, think they don’t have to participate in the recession?”

    Just a guess but I’d say 40 years of featherbedding and union thuggery.

    In other news—-
    A mysterous Muslim group with unknown sponsors has purchased a building steps away from Ground Zero.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/
    mysterious-group-buys-building-next-to-ground-zero-for-mosque/

    Those wacky Muslims are as fun as a firepoker in the eye.

    Comment by Zapatista — December 16, 2009 @ 3:14 pm

  11. Well, I for one am solidly behind Al Gore, Jr.

    This is a lad that knows how to milk Ol’ Bessie and turn a sweet nickel… if y’all get my drift.

    Not bad for a guy who spent his formative years in Wash.DC private schools, flunked out of law school and Divinity School, whose father (Al Gore,Sr) was a dead serious segregationist [ Heads up Southern Poverty Wife Beaters] and whose family fortune is based on Soviet BIG OIL in the form of Armand Hammer’s Occidental Petroleum (of which a major portion of the Gore family trust is invested).
    What’s not to love? Especially the way he talks down to people with that fat, southern plantation snouser pinched up to his beady vacuous eyes.
    Man, I just love that sermonific geo-nonsense he pooches out of those hog fattened lips.

    Bless his heart..he’s jus doin’ de bes’ he can!

    Comment by Zapatista — December 16, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

  12. The same folks that have given us the Social Security and Medicare debacle, the postal ‘service’, the bankrupt Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, Amtrak, the military/industrial complex, The housing bubble/crisis, the pension guarantee benefit corporation and a $13TRILLION national debt [That’s $68,000 for every man woman and child] are now going to “fix” healthcare.

    Here’s what Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has to say about that:
    “Americans were told the purpose of reform was to reduce the cost of health care.

    “Instead, Democrat leaders produced a $2.5 trillion, 2,074-page monstrosity that vastly expands government, raises taxes, raises premiums, and wrecks Medicare.

    And here’s the most outrageous part: at the end of this rush, they want us to vote on a bill that no one outside the Majority Leader’s conference room has even seen.

    “That’s right. The final bill we’ll vote on isn’t even the one we’ve had on the floor. It’s the deal Democrat leaders have been trying to work out in private. “

    http://mcconnell.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=320943&start=1

    Comment by Zapatista — December 17, 2009 @ 9:08 am

  13. Not sure if this is the right spot for this but it says Open Session, so here goes. Watching the news and looking at internet news sites, I find it interesting how Democrat representatives and senators are clamoring to pass a health care bill FOR THE PRESIDENT!! Weren’t they elected BY THE PEOPLE, shouldn’t they be working for US, the ones who brought them to the dance? The last Rasmussen poll I saw had 56% of THE PEOPLE opposed to health care and only 44% thinking the president was doing a good job. Just an observation.

    Comment by Will Penny — December 17, 2009 @ 10:50 pm

  14. Fox has announced that Time-Warner cable may no longer be carrying their programs.
    This is one of my pet peeves. I would rather pay a minimum monthly rate and “cherry pick” the few channels I actually do watch rather than have 25 shopping channels.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BH2FX20091218?type=entertainmentNews

    Comment by Zapatista — December 18, 2009 @ 9:47 am

  15. (from the press article)
    According to the latest report from the Coeur d’Alene Multiple Listing Service, single-family home sales through November, at 1,552, are up 10 percent over last year.

    The number of listings through the MLS was 3,839 in November, a decrease of 7.3 percent from October.[ A 28 month supply].

    http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2009/12/18/business/bus01.txt

    Talk about sugar-coating road apples.

    Invest in real estate…where else can you lose 8-16% a year on a 30 year investment?

    Comment by Zapatista — December 18, 2009 @ 10:58 am

  16. I don’t know if it is just me but the programming offered on any of these cable services is really awful. For starters 146 channels is really only around 50 or 60 channels when you consider channels gaps and duplicate programming. There are maybe 10 feature films that get repeatedly shown. There are at least 5-10 channels devoted to shopping. There are 5-10 channels devoted to very specific ethnic programs. There are 5-10 channels devoted to off color rock and comedy. Out of 146 channels I look to maybe 6-10 that might, maybe, occasionally have a new program of interest.

    Comment by Wallypog — December 18, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

  17. Wallypog is being unnecessarily gracious.

    ************************************************************

    There is no need for ho’wood writers to dream up ‘cutting edge’ plots. Life has provided stories that their drug and alcohol-addled minds could never imagine.

    Here is one…

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article6959379.ece

    I thought of non-practicing jew George Soros [moveon.org] when I read this story and what a sad and melancholic contrast of the lives of these two jews.

    For more amazing real life stories, check out the obits in the banner at the right of the link.

    Comment by Zapatista — December 18, 2009 @ 8:40 pm

  18. Just for opencda lurkers: An amazing view of a volcano going off 4000ft. BELOW the ocean’s surface!

    http://interesting-weird-educational-videos.blogspot.com
    /2009/12/scientists-discover-and-image-explosive.html

    Just for giggles, what effect does anyone think this event has on actual global warming, the Communnhagen conference on Globaloney or Al Gorlarmist’s Big Fat eco-scare portfolio?

    Comment by Zapatista — December 18, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

  19. The sweet and oxycontic draw of socialism eventually causes the sociodruggie to pay the commu-pusherman.

    Sadly,Europa has ridden the socialist bull and now is on the verge of dire and rapacious circumstances directly related to its succoring on the soft and lazy wealth-redistribution teat Prostelytizedby the homeless, parasitic and megalomanic Karl Marx and his hateful sloggery which has come to be known to its mentally weak adherents as “Marxism.”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/debt-disaster-fears-rumble-from-athens-to-london-2009-12-16?source=patrick.net

    The only thing saving the dollar ( and America) is the wrangling between the Democrats and Republicans as to who will jump off the cliff with the euroidiots first.

    In local news (besides the Shopko PR nightmare of firing Jerry Gundersen), triple play is opening a skating rink.

    http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2009/12/19/business/bus01.txt

    Why couldn’t the LCDC buy some of those synthetic panels for part of Fake Lake at JohnsEgostone?

    What…function for ALL cda citizens?

    …and isn’t it interesting how Mike Patrick has given free reign to Dale Oliver’s [word deleted by Bill] to insult Press subscribers and North Idaho residents in the Press comments sections?

    Comment by Zapatista — December 19, 2009 @ 8:18 am

  20. Hey Bill-
    The word was a hybrid between huckleberries, muckrakers and fairies. Didn’t see the offense but I REALLY like the____[word deleted by Bill]___addition. I’m sure readers have already mentally filled in descriptions far more graphic than my little mini-witism!

    Comment by Zapatista — December 19, 2009 @ 10:19 am

  21. “I take it all back. Copenhagen was worth it, after all – if only for the sphincter-bursting rage its supposed failure has caused among our [word deleted by Bill] watermelon chums. (That’s watermelon, as in: green on the outside, red on the inside).

    As Damian reports, on Twitter they’re all planning to cleanse Mother Gaia of their polluting presence Jonestown-style.

    The Great Moonbat is sounding more unhinged than ever:…..”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020337/copenhagen-the-sweet-
    sound-of-exploding-watermelons/

    Attention Huckleberry Frowns: Pay careful attention to this writer’s grasp of English and the methodology in which he inserts logic and humour into the syntax. Maybe, just maybe, if you study real hard, some of that may trickle down into your little liberal echo chamber.

    Comment by Zapatista — December 19, 2009 @ 10:49 am

  22. Ah, yes…life in America’s cities. Just another story not worth reporting in our newspapers.

    [Two paragraphs and link deleted by Bill.]

    Comment by Zapatista — December 19, 2009 @ 10:58 am

  23. Zapatista,

    I don’t know if you are intentionally trying to see how far you can push it, but the graphic details of a rape is definitely over the limit. There is a reason that US newspapers won’t publish that kind of information in that much detail. I missed that when your comment was approved, but this is your first and last warning. You are not clever or witty. Knock it off. If you are not able to control yourself, please do not post here. Thank you.

    Comment by Bill — December 19, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

  24. Thanks Bill for the “guidance.” Sorry, but life is getting more dangerous by the moment.

    For example, here is a link describing an islamic militant training camp in NY State I wasn’t aware of that has suddenly been mostly vacated with some former residents now showing up around the world fighting our troops (and possibly in the US).

    http://thelastcrusade.org/2009/12/17/islamberg-has-become-a-ghost-town/

    Just curious. Why are there so few postings here?

    Comment by Zapatista — December 20, 2009 @ 12:00 am

  25. Zapatista,

    The focus of OpenCdA is on local issues. There are plenty of other forums available for those who wish to comment on national and international issues without making any nexus to our local conditions. There are times when we comment on national issues and use examples from outside our area (e.g., public corruption prosecutions, illegal behavior by public officials in the conduct of their official business, etc.) because they are happening locally but go unreported or underreported by local media. We hope to make our community members more aware of what is happening here. Sometimes, referring to distant incidents is the best way to do that. We are not trying to be dead-tree or talking head journalists following some outdated journalism model. We are simply trying to put out information that will encourage people to think for themselves.

    We do not have any kind of counter on our website, so we don’t know how many people read the posts and the comments. We could easily make up some wild number to try and impress people, but we’re not like the Coeur d’Alene Press or the Spokesman-Review. They are struggling to make enough money to stay profitable. They need to demonstrate to advertisers that it would be worthwhile to advertise with them on their website. They can do that by trying to measure the number of people who view their websites. The cost of operating our website, less than $250 per year (website hosting, domain name registration, City of Coeur d’Alene Home Occupation Permit fee, PO Box, and federal and state tax preparation software), comes from generous donors and our own pockets. Because we are an LLC and accept donations, we do have to file federal and state tax reports. We neither solicit nor accept advertising.

    Our objective is to put up information about local conditions in Kootenai County. Not everyone who reads wants to comment even pseudonymously. Both Mary and I receive a pretty significant number of emails from people, some “insiders”, who read our material and want to provide information. They prefer to do it via private email rather than posting openly. Their hope is that by providing us with information, we will use it. That’s what we’re trying to do. That’s why we are not going to allow this website to deteriorate to the state that those in the Coeur d’Alene Press and the Spokesman-Review have.

    Comment by Bill — December 20, 2009 @ 6:30 am

  26. Good Luck!

    Comment by Zapatista — December 20, 2009 @ 9:08 am

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