CdA is in full swing on this first day of summer. Good news: Joy Seward is holding her own as she recovers from her heart attack. Please keep those prayers flowing. I heard a rumor that the State Board of Education vote to hold up the lease agreement between the city and U of I was almost unanimous…only one vote to approve.
Any comments, suggestions, ideas?
Unless someone’s posts have namecalling or taunting in their comments,people should be able to post whatever,they want to post on a blog.
So,there are a couple of livewires’on
this website.Now,there are a couple of people who are complaining about it.Why should anybody cave-in to their demands;so they can practice their form of CENSORSHIP.Where were the complaints when Dan and Mark Altman Sr. were having their passionate discussions? Should we quit going to city council meetings because,of what happened last tuesday?Should we turn off Hannity and Colmes because,were offended by what Alan Colmes or Sean Hannity has to say?
IMO-it is up to each individual reading these comments on a blog,to refrain from reading comments that may offend them.
We live in the United States of America.A free country, where free speech is allowed by all her citizens.
Comment by kageman — June 21, 2008 @ 10:50 am
You make a good point, Kageman. I have found that ignoring irritating commenters is a good tactic. But when someone adds nothing of value, no opinions, no conversation, only snipes and accusatory questions just shy of name-calling, that’s meant for only one purpose—to bring down this blog. We need to react if that type of thing continues.
Comment by mary — June 21, 2008 @ 11:01 am
Well said Mary.
Kageman, I understand where you are coming from on your point. If we are always afraid to offend someone then debate ends and we lose.
I trust Mary to make the proper calls. After all she often absorbs the shots for those of us standing behind her. Thanks Mary.
Comment by Mama Bear — June 21, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Also remember that Bill, Mary, and I have our e-mail addresses listed out in the open. I know that each of us checks our e-mail several times a day. If you feel anything is out-of-line here, please drop any of us a note and we can deal with it while keeping your identity anonymous.
Comment by Dan — June 21, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
I agree with Mary.Mama Bear sums it up best:If we are always afraid to offend someone then debate ends and we lose.
What we have to understand and realize is that most of these borderline comments were made in the spirit of a’debate’.Do some debates cross the line at times? Of Course!Does anybody believe our founding fathers were civil to each other 100% of the time?Especially,when they were debating the direction of this country. The people debating are very passionate in their convictions,on certain issues.It would be different if someone just blogged in and made a denigrating comment out of the blue,towards another poster.
It would be sad,if we start mistaking
a passionate statement,for something else.
Comment by kageman — June 21, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
I forget who said this, but I often recite it:
Comment by Dan — June 21, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Summer is here and the Supreme Court is almost done. See http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/new-statpack-plus-what-to-expect-next-week/ for what is coming next.
Heller is the big one. Watch for reaction to get ugly no matter the decision.
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
“I forget who said this,…”
An Irishman, no doubt. 🙂
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Hey, hey…be nice to us Irish!
Comment by mary — June 21, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
This is pretty cool. We were discussing the “Oil Crisis” here a few posts back. Try this quiz and test your MPG IQ!
Comment by Dan — June 21, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Look, I am a fan of the Irish. If you have not read it, buy and read:
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
Bad pic link. See:
How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland’s Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
Pariah, I have read it and enjoyed it immensely. We spent some time in Ireland this past September and were impressed with not only the friendliness of the people, but their intelligence too. They really do have quick wits and the gift of gab. Maybe my little bit of German caused my wit to slow, ’cause I can’t come up with the hilarious retorts like they can!
Comment by mary — June 21, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Had the Irish not protected and preserved the Faith and the literacy that helped spread same, the ‘Dark Ages’ would be here yet.
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
Joy Seward is out of intensive care and on the ward! The family thanks you for the prayers.
Comment by Mama Bear — June 21, 2008 @ 8:20 pm
Outstanding news, thanks MamaBear!
Comment by Pariah — June 21, 2008 @ 8:39 pm
That’s terrific! Thanks for the great news, Mama Bear.
Comment by mary — June 21, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
That is great news about Joy. I know she will still face recovery time, but those of us who know her; understand that she is a fighter. Joy and Rick, you are in our thoughts and prayers.
Comment by doubleseetripleeye — June 21, 2008 @ 11:59 pm
Maybe my little bit of German caused my wit to slow, ’cause I can’t come up with the hilarious retorts like they can!
Comment by mary — June 21, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Hey, Hey… be nice to us Germans!!! 😉
Comment by Damn Yankee — June 22, 2008 @ 10:12 am
Oops, sorry DY! We all have our strengths…
Comment by mary — June 22, 2008 @ 10:19 am
Indeed. The Irish are not known for conquering France. Twice.
(Sorry. Just had to!)
Comment by Dan — June 22, 2008 @ 10:36 am
The Irish monks conquered Europe with nothing more than Bibles and Rosaries using schools and churches. Germany did march into Paris twice, but then left. The churches are still there. Of course now the German bankers control Paris yet a third time but in the end, the Irish will win. At least that’s my bet.
Comment by Pariah — June 22, 2008 @ 10:58 am
I went to the library thursday,for the book signing.Scott Reed wrote a book called:The treasure called,
Tubbs Hill.Mr.Reed,who is a attorney and preservationist recounts how it came about that the city of CDA came to acquire all the land on Tubbs Hill,for the publics benefit.
I read the book today and didn’t realize that Mr.Reed and Art Manley
were the main driving forces that saved Tubbs Hill from private development.In fact,Scott risked his own money to save the hill from money hungry developers and negotiated with a developer to purchase the top part of Tubbs Hill,
so eventually,the city could purchase
it later.
Now,I know for certain there are people who live here, who aren’t out to make a bunch of money off this area and try to develop everything in sight.
As an avid Tubbs Hill hiker,it was a
privilege to shake Scott Reed’s hand.
Comment by kageman — June 22, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
Good comment, Kageman.
It is good to remember that there are people who live here and have the community’s best interests at heart. Unfortunately, we also have to remember there are some people living here who, though they’ve lived here a long time, are still predators. We can only hope the former prevails and the latter fails.
Comment by Bill — June 22, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
kageman did you ask scott reed his opinion on the education corridor?
Comment by reagan — June 22, 2008 @ 6:15 pm
Differences between the Education Corridor and Tubbs Hill
A. Tubbs Hill is a hill; the Education Corridor is flat.
B. Tubbs Hill is a park, the Education Corridor is not.
C. Tubbs Hill doesn’t have any buildings on it; the Education Corridor will be covered with buildings.
D. Tubbs Hill is next to a park; the Education Corridor will be next to 2 miles of new development along Northwest Blvd and a Wastewater Treatment Facility.
E. Tubbs Hill provides miles of waterfront access; the Education Corridor, well, we don’t know how much access the public gets, though we’re promised access that information is being kept out of the public eye
F. The facts about Tubbs Hill are known; the facts about the Education Corridor are secret
G. There are no traffic problems created by Tubbs Hill; the Education Corridor will create more traffic on Northwest Blvd, as well as strain on downtown’s infrastructure.
H. Tubbs Hill was saved by citizens like Scott Reed; the Education Corridor is promoted by politicians and people who stand to make a ton of money off its development
The Education Corridor is about development, not education.
I remember when Scott Reed addressed the City Council on the history of NIC. He pointed out, correctly so, that only a small portion of NIC’s campus is deed-restricted. I wish when our officials discussed NIC, they would admit that it’s only the southern, western most part of the campus that is deed-restricted, not the current campus’ size. When they state that the entire campus is deed-restricted, they are not reflecting the truth.
Comment by Dan — June 22, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
Reagan,it would very interesting to hear what Scott Reed thinks of the
Education Corridor.
Dan,has made some good points.My question is:Does Marshall Chesrown stand to gain anything from the Education Corridor? Is the pending
‘mill site’acquisition by Mr.Chesrown;(to be sold later to NIC)
a way of ingratiating himself with our city officials,so he can later get approval on another development he has in store for this area.
Comment by kageman — June 22, 2008 @ 8:30 pm
Scott told me that he was amazed at the large number of people who came to his book signing. He said he enjoyed hearing everyone’s stories about Tubbs Hill.
Comment by Susie Snedaker — June 23, 2008 @ 6:42 am